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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 06/20] sched/core: allow only preferred CPUs in is_cpu_allowed
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 10:44:29 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0088b89f-d18b-4f36-863f-888c93177f76@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajN49OZUt3kvN9hm@yury>



On 6/18/26 10:19 AM, Yury Norov wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 09:47:49AM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>>
>> It is reset to indicate that any subsequent direct calls to is_cpu_allowed can't use the
>> old cached value of select_fallback_rq.
>>
>> So events could be,
>>
>> - cpu marked as non preferred - select_fallback_rq (sets the p->has_preferred_cpu_state)
>>    Lets say CPU(300-450) are marked as non-preferred and Task affinity is (200-350)
>> - task moved out. Now either task's affinity changed or preferred_mask has changed.
>>    while CPU(400) maybe still marked as non-preferred but CPU(340) is marked as preferred.
>> - Subsequent call to is_cpu_allowed (CPU=340) can't assume the old value.
> 
> Please, no top-posting.
> 
> My point is: out of the scope of the select_fallback_rq(), the
> p->has_preferred_cpu_state is always 0 because of the line above. It
> means, it doesn't belong to the task_struct, it belongs the current
> scope.
> 
> So either make this caching really surviving the scope exit, or make
> it a local variable.
> 
> Not sure I understood the passage above about the possible events, but
> variables that are always zero out of the function scope should not be
> placed in global structures.

That was the other way. add one more variable to is_cpu_allowed.

>   
>>> What for resetting it here? I think it should be zeroed only on update
>>> of preferred cpumask. In other words, to properly implement caching,
>>> you need to have a global counter incremented on each
>>> cpu_preferred_mask update, and in task_has_preferred_cpus() you do:
>>>
>>>    {
>>>           if (p->preferred_cpu_updates == atomic_read(preferred_cpumask_updates))
>>>                   return p->has_preferred_cpus;
>>>
>>>           p->preferred_cpu_updates = atomic_read(preferred_cpumask_updates);
>>>           p->has_preferred_cpus = cpumask_intersects(...);
>>>    }
>>>
>>> Do you have any numbers that justify this caching? The best practice
>>> is to put performance optimizations at the end of the series and
>>> provide some sort of benchmark supporting it.
>>>
>>
>> This was to avoid N**2 aspect that was there in select_fallback_rq.
>> Its more of the functional aspect which i mentioned above which this needs
>> to take care as well.
> 
> Please, collect the performance data first, then optimize your code,
> not vice-versa.

It did make sense to cache it since select_fallback_rq does repeated 
calculations with pi_lock held and irq disabled.

>   
>>>>    	return dest_cpu;
>>>>    }
>>>> @@ -4612,6 +4641,7 @@ static void __sched_fork(u64 clone_flags, struct task_struct *p)
>>>>    	init_numa_balancing(clone_flags, p);
>>>>    	p->wake_entry.u_flags = CSD_TYPE_TTWU;
>>>>    	p->migration_pending = NULL;
>>>> +	p->has_preferred_cpu_state = 0;
>>>>    	init_sched_mm(p);
>>>>    }
>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>>> index c7c2dea65edd..38fd84b0b8f8 100644
>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>>>> @@ -4213,4 +4213,22 @@ DEFINE_CLASS_IS_UNCONDITIONAL(sched_change)
>>>>    #include "ext.h"
>>>> +/*
>>>> + * has_preferred_cpu_state is encoding two bits of information.
>>>> + * First Byte is to encode where the call to is_cpu_allowed coming from.
>>>> + * Second Byte is to encode the intersection of task affinity
>>>> + * and cpu_preferred_mask.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * If 1st Byte is set, call to is_cpu_allowed coming from select_fallback_rq.
>>>> + * That helps to avoid repeated calculation keeping time complexity same.
>>>> + */
>>>> +static inline bool task_has_preferred_cpus(struct task_struct *p)
>>>
>>> This function should be void because you change the task state.
>>>
>>
>> It doesn't alter p->has_preferred_cpu_state. No?
> 
> It doesn't, but it should.

Not sure. i think this can be just a wrapper to indicate the info
to inform if this cpu should be used or not based on task affinity.

> 
>>>> +{
>>>> +	int cached_value = p->has_preferred_cpu_state;
>>>> +
>>>> +	if (cached_value & 0x1)
>>>> +		return p->has_preferred_cpu_state >> 8;
>>>> +	else
>>>> +		return cpumask_intersects(p->cpus_ptr, cpu_preferred_mask);
>>>> +}
>>>>    #endif /* _KERNEL_SCHED_SCHED_H */
>>>> -- 
>>>> 2.47.3


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-18  5:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-17 17:41 [PATCH v4 00/20] sched: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask and steal-driven vCPU backoff Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 01/20] sched/debug: Remove unused schedstats Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 02/20] sched/docs: Document cpu_preferred_mask and Preferred CPU concept Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 03/20] kconfig: Provide PREFERRED_CPU option Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  0:51   ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  3:44     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 04/20] cpumask: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  1:29   ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  3:53     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  8:27       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 05/20] sysfs: Add preferred CPU file Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 06/20] sched/core: allow only preferred CPUs in is_cpu_allowed Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  3:32   ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  4:17     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  4:49       ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  5:14         ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-06-18  3:49   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-18  4:22     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18 14:12       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 07/20] sched/fair: Select preferred CPU at wakeup when possible Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 08/20] sched/fair: load balance only among preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  3:03   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-18  3:54     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 09/20] sched/core: Keep tick on non-preferred CPUs until tasks are out Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 10/20] sched/core: Push current task from non preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  4:09   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-18  6:05     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 11/20] sched/debug: Add migration stats due to non preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 12/20] sched/debug: Create debugfs folder steal monitor Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 13/20] sched/debug: Provide debugfs to enable/disable " Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 14/20] sched/core: Introduce a simple " Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  4:30   ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  4:44     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  5:32       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-06-18  6:01         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  6:39           ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  6:45             ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  7:16               ` Yury Norov
2026-06-19  6:26                 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 15/20] sched/core: Compute steal values at regular intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  4:04   ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  5:39     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 16/20] sched/core: Introduce default arch handling code for inc/dec preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  4:15   ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  4:42     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 17/20] sched/core: Handle steal values and mark CPUs as preferred Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 18/20] sched/core: Mark the direction of steal values to avoid oscillations Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 19/20] sched/debug: Add debug knobs for steal monitor Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH v4 20/20] sched/core: Add a few check for valid CPU in inc/dec of preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-18  4:21   ` Yury Norov
2026-06-18  4:40     ` Shrikanth Hegde

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