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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [git pull] scheduler updates
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:41:16 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081108104116.48bd26e6@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0811081026280.3468@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:28:21 -0800 (PST)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > Ingo Molnar (2):
> >       sched: improve sched_clock() performance
> >       sched: optimize sched_clock() a bit
> 
> Btw, why do we do that _idiotic_ rdtsc_barrier() AT ALL?
> 
> No sane user can possibly want it. If you do 'rdtsc', there's nothing
> you can do about a few cycles difference due to OoO _anyway_. Adding
> barriers is entirely meaningless - it's not going to make the return
> value mean anything else.
> 
> Can we please just remove that idiocy? Or can somebody give a _sane_ 
> argument for it?

historically it was for early AMD cpus (K7, not sure if early K8 did
this) where 2 consecutive rdtsc's in the same codestream would get
reordered compared to eachother, so you could observe the tsc go
backwards...



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-08 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-08 17:02 Ingo Molnar
2008-11-08 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-08 18:38   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-08 18:41   ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-11-08 19:00     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-08 19:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-08 19:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-08 19:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17 22:43             ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-11-17 22:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-17 23:04                 ` Venki Pallipadi
2008-11-17 23:13                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-08 19:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-08 19:10       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-08 18:52   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-08 18:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-11-08 19:32     ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-02-06 21:38 [GIT PULL] " Ingo Molnar
2008-03-21 16:23 [git pull] " Ingo Molnar
2008-02-29 18:04 Ingo Molnar
2008-02-13 15:58 Ingo Molnar
2008-01-31 21:54 Ingo Molnar
2007-12-30 16:45 Ingo Molnar
2007-10-24 16:39 Ingo Molnar

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