From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@nokia.com>
Cc: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind@yandex.ru>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: replace() system call needed (was Re: EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:02:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090329130251.GF15492@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49CF70FD.7050802@nokia.com>
On Sun 2009-03-29 16:00:45, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>> 2. create/write/rename leads to empty files
>>>> ..but this should not be. If we want to make that explicit, we should
>>>> provide "replace()" operation; where replace is rename that makes sure
>>>> that source file is completely on media before commiting the rename.
>>> Well, OK, we can fsync() before rename, we just need clean rules
>>> for this, so that all Linux FSes would follow them. Would be nice
>>> to have final agreement on all this stuff.
>>
>> My proposal is
>>
>> rename() stays.
>
> It stays and:
>
> 1. does _not_ fsync
Does not fsync. If someone wants to make sure one of the files is on
the disk, he should use replace(). [On non-linux systems, replace()
should be implemented as fsync/rename in libc or something.]
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-29 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-27 12:48 EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-28 1:22 ` Kyungmin Park
2009-03-29 12:31 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:54 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:26 ` replace() system call needed (was Re: EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS) Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 12:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 12:50 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:00 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:02 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-03-29 13:07 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:22 ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-29 13:55 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 13:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:57 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-29 14:00 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-30 17:19 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-03-30 22:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-29 13:01 ` Andreas T.Auer
2009-03-29 13:06 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-03-30 15:58 ` Diego Calleja
2009-04-03 0:09 ` EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS Christian Kujau
2009-04-03 0:24 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 0:28 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 0:38 ` Christian Kujau
2009-04-03 0:54 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 0:54 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 0:59 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 1:55 ` David Rees
2009-04-03 2:05 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 2:19 ` David Rees
2009-04-03 2:28 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 2:58 ` David Rees
2009-04-03 3:13 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 3:14 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 5:02 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03 5:15 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 6:30 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03 18:53 ` Chris Adams
2009-04-03 18:05 ` David Rees
2009-04-09 20:17 ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-03 2:26 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 2:05 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-03 2:45 ` Christian Kujau
2009-04-03 2:49 ` Trenton D. Adams
2009-04-03 6:53 ` Artem Bityutskiy
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2009-03-31 21:27 ` replace() system call needed (was Re: EXT4-ish "fixes" in UBIFS) Bodo Eggert
2009-04-01 0:06 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-01 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-01 22:58 ` Bodo Eggert
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