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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Cc: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	ming.m.lin@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Zheng Yan <zheng.z.yan@intel.com>,
	Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 2/5] PM, Add sysfs file power_off to control device power off policy
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 23:00:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201205042300.33976.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo7yRWCWKrd93AJ3b1VZW-_gWeJgru4cfHN7cp3wFmW96w@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday, May 04, 2012, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> > From: Lan Tianyu <tianyu.lan@intel.com>
> >
> > Some devices can be powered off to save more power via some platform
> > mechanism, e.g., ACPI.  But that may not work as expected for some
> > device or platform.  So, this patch adds a sysfs file named power_off
> > under <device>/power directory to provide a mechanism for user to control
> > whether to allow the device to be power off.
> >
> > power_off => "enabled" means allowing the device to be powered off if
> > possible.
> >
> > power_off => "disabled" means the device must be power on anytime.
> >
> > Also add flag power_off_user to struct dev_pm_info to record users'
> > choice. The bus layer can use this field to determine whether to
> > power off the device.
> 
> My first thought was that writing to "power_off" would actually turn
> the power off, which isn't true.  Maybe something like
> "poweroff_allowed" would work.
> 
> I think there's only one use of this new field, in
> pci_pm_runtime_suspend().  Maybe you could pull out that hunk from
> patch 5, combine it with this one, and move it to after patch 5?

Well, please see my comment.

First, it doesn't make sense to export a sysfs file to control a feature that
the given device doesn't have.

Second, if such a file is exported _at_ _this_ _level_, the sysfs setting
should affect every situation in which power may be removed from devices, not
just the PCIe D3cold damned thing.

If this is going to be PCIe-specific, the flag should go into struct pci_dev,
and the sysfs file accordingly.

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-04 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-04  8:13 [RFC v2 0/5] PCIe, Add PCIe runtime D3cold support Huang Ying
2012-05-04  8:13 ` [RFC v2 1/5] PM, Runtime, Add power_must_be_on flag Huang Ying
2012-05-04 19:37   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05  5:15     ` huang ying
2012-05-07 20:33       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-04 19:50   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-05  5:59     ` huang ying
2012-05-07 20:37       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-04  8:13 ` [RFC v2 2/5] PM, Add sysfs file power_off to control device power off policy Huang Ying
2012-05-04 19:33   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05  6:29     ` huang ying
2012-05-07 20:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-08  1:44         ` Huang Ying
2012-05-08 21:34           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-09  6:46             ` Huang Ying
2012-05-09 10:38               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-10  0:55                 ` Huang Ying
2012-05-10 14:48                   ` Alan Stern
2012-05-10 19:03                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-04 19:50   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-04 21:00     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2012-05-05  6:36     ` huang ying
2012-05-04  8:13 ` [RFC v2 3/5] PCIe, Add runtime PM support to PCIe port Huang Ying
2012-05-04 19:43   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05  6:46     ` huang ying
2012-05-07 21:00       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-11  7:57         ` Huang Ying
2012-05-11 18:44           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-04 19:50   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-04 20:55     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05  6:54       ` huang ying
2012-05-07 21:06         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05  6:53     ` huang ying
2012-05-04  8:13 ` [RFC v2 4/5] ACPI, PM, Specify lowest allowed state for device sleep state Huang Ying
2012-05-04 20:10   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05  7:25     ` huang ying
2012-05-07 21:15       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-08  1:49         ` Huang Ying
2012-05-04  8:13 ` [RFC v2 5/5] PCIe, Add PCIe runtime D3cold support Huang Ying
2012-05-04 19:51   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2012-05-05  7:34     ` huang ying
2012-05-04 20:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-05  8:08     ` huang ying
2012-05-07 21:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-05-08  2:22         ` Huang Ying
2012-05-08  8:34           ` Huang Ying
2012-05-10 19:28             ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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