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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	kprateek.nayak@amd.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	qyousef@layalina.io
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] sched/eevdf: Reset lag when waking up on idle cpu
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 12:13:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260922101304.GQ776954@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260921152238.3804392-6-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>

On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 05:22:35PM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> When several tasks wake up simultaneously on an idle CPU, their final vlag
> will depend of the ordering as the first one will lose its lag but not
> the next ones.
> Reset the lag when the enqueue happens while no fair task has already been
> picked et set as the running task.
> 
> As a typical example:
> CPU0 is idle
> TA with vlag 0ms and TB with vlag 5ms wake up on CPU0 simultaneously.
> Depending which grab the lock 1st the behavior will be different:
> If TA is enqueued 1st, TB will be enqueued with a positive lag and will
> be picked 1st.
> But if TB is enqueued 1st, it will loose its positive vlag and both TA and
> TB will have 0 vlag when fair will pick a task.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> ---
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 27 +++++++++++++++++----------
>  1 file changed, 17 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 4230954d10d0..739a3af60520 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -900,7 +900,7 @@ static __always_inline
>  void decay_entity_lag(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
>  {
>  	s64 vlag = se->vlag;
> -	s64 delta_exec;
> +	struct rq *rq;
>  
>  	WARN_ON_ONCE(se->on_rq);
>  
> @@ -908,18 +908,25 @@ void decay_entity_lag(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
>  	if (vlag <= 0)
>  		return;
>  
> -	if (flags & ENQUEUE_MIGRATED)
> -		return;
> +	rq = rq_of(cfs_rq);
>  
> -	/* Compute the sleep time */
> -	delta_exec = rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq)) - se->exec_start;
> -	if (unlikely(delta_exec <= 0))
> -		return;
> +	if (rq->curr == rq->idle) {
> +		/* You can't claim any lag when waking on idle CPU */
> +		vlag = 0;

Right. As I mentioned during OSPM, one of the crazy ideas I had was to
do something like the below. All of the lag stuff only makes sense while
there is contention.

Now, I've not actually tried this -- and at the very least the migation
case is broken. But it should very much capture the rq->curr == rq->idle
case and then some.


diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
index dac15ec36d1e..70fe8fadafac 100644
--- a/include/linux/sched.h
+++ b/include/linux/sched.h
@@ -592,6 +592,7 @@ struct sched_entity {
 	u64				vruntime;
 	/* Approximated virtual lag: */
 	s64				vlag;
+	u32				vlag_seq;
 	/* 'Protected' deadline, to give out minimum quantums: */
 	u64				vprot;
 	u64				slice;
diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index 2ad46fb2eafe..3e3dde5f2117 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -898,6 +898,7 @@ bool update_entity_lag(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
 			vlag = min(vlag, 0);
 	}
 	se->vlag = vlag;
+	se->vlag_seq = cfs_rq->idle_seq;
 
 	return avruntime - vlag != se->vruntime;
 }
@@ -6397,6 +6398,9 @@ place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
 	if (flags & ENQUEUE_QUEUED)
 		nr_queued -= 1;
 
+	if (se->vlag_seq != cfs_rq->idle_seq)
+		se->vlag = 0;
+
 	/*
 	 * Due to how V is constructed as the weighted average of entities,
 	 * adding tasks with positive lag, or removing tasks with negative lag
@@ -8374,6 +8378,9 @@ static bool __dequeue_task(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int flags)
 
 	dequeue_hierarchy(p, flags);
 
+	if (!cfs_rq->h_nr_queued)
+		cfs_rq->idle_seq++;
+
 	if (sched_feat(PLACE_REL_DEADLINE) && !task_sleep) {
 		se->deadline -= se->vruntime;
 		se->rel_deadline = 1;
diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
index 6c3ad70e58b8..0f0edb77e235 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
+++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
@@ -689,6 +689,7 @@ struct cfs_rq {
 	u64			sum_weight;
 	u64			zero_vruntime;
 	unsigned int		sum_shift;
+	u32			idle_seq;
 
 #ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CORE
 	unsigned int		forceidle_seq;

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-22 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-21 15:22 [PATCH 0/8] Improving latency of short slice tasks Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 1/8] sched/eevdf: Ensure that vprot will never go above a min slice Vincent Guittot
2026-09-25 10:54   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 2/8] sched/eevdf: Align update_protect_slice to set_protect_slice Vincent Guittot
2026-09-25 10:54   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 3/8] sched/eevdf: Handle more short slice waking cases Vincent Guittot
2026-09-25 10:54   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 4/8] sched/eevdf: Decay positive lag of sleeping entities Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 10:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 10:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 12:56     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 13:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 14:21         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 5/8] sched/eevdf: Reset lag when waking up on idle cpu Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 16:06   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-22  5:56     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 10:13   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-09-22 14:20     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 14:32     ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 6/8] sched/eevdf: Add per cpu cached min_slice Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 10:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 14:19     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 7/8] sched/eevdf: Compare min slice during wake_affine Vincent Guittot
2026-09-26 18:18   ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-29 12:39     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-21 15:22 ` [PATCH 8/8] sched/eevdf: Add min slice check when selecting CPU Vincent Guittot
2026-09-22 10:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-22 12:31     ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-27  7:45       ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-09-29 12:42         ` Vincent Guittot
2026-10-01 15:15   ` Christian Loehle
2026-10-02 15:46     ` Vincent Guittot

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