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From: Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] riscv/mm: fix soft-dirty migration PMDs being treated as present
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 2026 19:33:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261007113345.32755-1-lance.yang@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69c33490-e5a3-4cf2-a5ed-d2bc8ed336d2@kernel.org>


On Wed, Oct 07, 2026 at 01:01:14PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>On 10/5/26 15:46, Lance Yang wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 05, 2026 at 12:37:20PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> On 10/4/26 05:03, Lance Yang wrote:
>>>> RISC-V uses _PAGE_EXEC for swap soft-dirty tracking when
>>>> CONFIG_MEM_SOFT_DIRTY is enabled and Svrsw60t59b is available. That's
>>>> a problem for PMD migration entries, since pmd_present() also checks
>>>> _PAGE_LEAF (R/W/X) to recognize THPs with _PAGE_PRESENT temporarily
>>>> cleared during splitting.
>>>
>>> I'm curious: why do we have to set leaf indications for non-present things? The
>>> HW sure will ignore it, right?
>> 
>> Yeah, that surprised me too :) Still wrapping my head around the details
>> ...
>> 
>>> Is this a sw problem? Who needs that?
>> 
>> IIUC, it's for software during a PMD split.
>> 
>> __split_huge_pmd_locked() invalidates the huge PMD and flushes the TLB
>> before installing the PTE table. Software still needs pmd_present() and
>> pmd_trans_huge() to recognize the THP in between.
>> 
>> RISC-V clears V but keeps the R/W/X bits for that, so the entry is invalid
>> to hardware but still identifiable as a THP by software.
>> 
>> Hopefully I didn't miss something.
>
>I thought some change we performed to GUP-fast wouldn't require that anymore.
>But my memory is a bit vague ... :)

Yeah, I'll have another look at that :)

>> 
>>>>
>>>> When a soft-dirty THP is migrated, set_pmd_migration_entry() preserves
>>>> soft-dirty with pmd_swp_mksoft_dirty(), setting the X bit in the
>>>> migration PMD. Even with _PAGE_PRESENT clear, we end up treating a
>>>> migration PMD as a present THP! The fault handler skips
>>>> pmd_migration_entry_wait(), and a write fault can end up in
>>>> do_huge_pmd_wp_page(), where pmd_page() decodes the migration entry
>>>> as a mapped PFN.
>>>
>>> That sounds bad.
>> 
>
>[...]
>
>> YES, looks a bit off ...
>>> That reduces the effective swap size (and PFN we can store). Could that be a
>>> problem?
>> 
>> We don't need all 52 bits of the swap offset.
>> 
>> RV64 PFNs only need 44 bits for migration entries, and actual swap is
>> already limited to about 16 TiB per area with 4 KiB pages by
>> last_page (__u32) and swap_info_struct.max (unsigned int).
>> 
>> So there's room to reserve a bit without reducing the supported swap
>> size or PFN range.
>> 
>> CONFIG_MEM_SOFT_DIRTY is only available on RV64, so RV32 keeps its 20-bit
>> offset.
>
>Good, can you spell that out in the patch description?

Sure, will add that to the commit message in v2 once I've heard back
from maintainers :)

Cheers, Lance

      reply	other threads:[~2026-10-07 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-04  3:03 Lance Yang
2026-10-05 10:37 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-05 13:46   ` Lance Yang
2026-10-05 14:23     ` Lance Yang
2026-10-07 11:01     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-07 11:33       ` Lance Yang [this message]

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