From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
skhan@linuxfoundation.org, rdunlap@infradead.org,
federico.vaga@vaga.pv.it, apw@canonical.com, joe@perches.com,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2026 21:04:59 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261010210459.754754db@226.227.38.69.naturalwireless.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h5iuc34d.fsf@trenco.lwn.net>
On Fri, 09 Oct 2026 09:20:18 -0600
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
> Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> writes:
>
> > On 09/10/2026 10:31, Sasha Levin wrote:
> >> The Maintainers Summit reached consensus to deprecate the Assisted-by
> >> tag. Remove the documentation requiring it.
> >
> > Please provide here some sort of arguments used in that summit
> > consensus/discussion. This basically reverts/changes previous consensus
> > [1], which is fine itself, but it lacks reasoning.
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/workflows/2026070224-unholy-commode-cf45@gregkh/
>
> I'm working on a report on the discussion, don't worry...Monday or
> Tuesday probably.
But changes like this should not rely on LWN articles. They need to be
presented in mailing list.
Honestly, I would like to have a "Vibe-coded-with:" tag. Why?, when I
do a git blame and want to ask the author why they did the change the
way they did, I would likely not expect much if they vibe coded it.
When we first started talking about what constitutes an Assisted-by tag
(using AI to debug, or review, or simply add templates), there wasn't
really any agreement to where it should stop. I have always been of the
idea that I want to know if someone actually wrote the code. If all you
did was use prompts, then you didn't write it. You simply instructed
a computer what to do. Much like helping a junior engineer. But with a
junior engineer, they would have the authorship and signed-off-by and
the kernel developer would likely just get "suggested-by". But we don't
do that for computers. But still it should be tagged that the author
didn't write the code somehow.
I wasn't at the maintainer summit to express my opinion so I'm doing it
here.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-11 1:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-09 8:31 Sasha Levin
2026-10-09 9:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-09 10:09 ` Sasha Levin
2026-10-09 10:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-09 10:24 ` Greg KH
2026-10-09 15:20 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-10-11 1:04 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2026-10-12 15:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 11:19 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:50 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:01 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:24 ` Ricardo B. Marlière (SUSE)
2026-10-13 12:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 17:16 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 12:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:04 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-10-13 13:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 13:37 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:52 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 14:54 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 14:58 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 17:12 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 17:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 19:25 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 20:16 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 20:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-10-14 13:56 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-16 14:19 ` Matthew Brost
2026-10-17 17:42 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2026-10-19 17:41 ` lyude
2026-10-14 18:47 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-15 23:14 ` Jeremy Dean Clifton
2026-10-13 15:02 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-13 16:58 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 17:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-16 16:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-20 21:15 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-21 2:54 ` Theodore Tso
2026-10-21 16:21 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2026-10-23 16:44 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-25 21:32 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-26 9:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-14 3:23 ` Theodore Tso
2026-10-14 11:23 ` Mark Brown
2026-10-14 13:08 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-14 13:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-10-14 14:15 ` Mark Brown
2026-10-19 22:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-20 4:28 ` Theodore Tso
2026-10-19 16:32 ` lyude
2026-10-21 16:07 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2026-10-26 19:04 ` lyude
2026-10-26 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-10-26 19:53 ` Joshua Peisach
2026-10-26 20:24 ` lyude
2026-10-26 21:29 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-19 22:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-19 16:26 ` lyude
2026-10-16 18:26 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-10-19 16:21 ` lyude
2026-10-13 4:24 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 5:56 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-13 6:18 ` Greg KH
2026-10-13 8:25 ` Kees Cook
2026-10-13 12:28 ` [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by reference Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 12:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:03 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 13:20 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-10-13 13:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-19 16:50 ` lyude
2026-10-13 15:18 ` Mark Brown
2026-10-13 17:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-10-13 20:01 ` Shuah Khan
2026-10-19 16:15 ` lyude
2026-10-22 13:20 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2026-10-23 17:36 ` lyude
2026-10-26 19:58 ` [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references Joshua Peisach
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