From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.tipi-net.de (mail.tipi-net.de [194.13.80.246]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81BFD4FDA48; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 07:12:19 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=194.13.80.246 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1790061144; cv=none; b=ulbWSrZxXI2mXPykRwH/NLEJVWIL3y8IZfniT7pE/fX3JNNFUtoRnhO16wOs1jLPTWDFD/KeZXQYlMGcyQ16PI6ECEEnPCJtwErBAz9uGveodYCh9O80tAkfdRW5FKwzaGqpZEEuy/XAe2wha2l4b2QpL+1fcgaFD1+s3JAfP9E= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1790061144; c=relaxed/simple; bh=J7bgjlWHfD35nAuXdrw5wqnQOzUKyrdR7uwwIxPzLRc=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type; b=nJczIGQpuzAKldqB8K6Wo+XmCowl9ayElC1+qX1/T5fXtLomDg3rA4I19kDp1fS2q8rxMWKbk0irfAINhAGGkPkBQGWQKuKPY9oESN35n05V+CMjqIGDN1Uu6YRTU0KUDb94d6LBwm3L13puiXBFA9j1dJBVD9WjuyrujKyBFww= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=tipi-net.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=tipi-net.de; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=tipi-net.de header.i=@tipi-net.de header.b=MKmd26Fr; arc=none smtp.client-ip=194.13.80.246 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=tipi-net.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=tipi-net.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=tipi-net.de header.i=@tipi-net.de header.b="MKmd26Fr" Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Mailerdaemon) with ESMTPSA id C8F94A4A34; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:12:14 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tipi-net.de; s=dkim; t=1790061136; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:cc:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references; bh=o2Dvl8LriDs9c3eda7doL8EwSK7ODoJenHR1YmSNe4A=; b=MKmd26FrzNVo/twqZl4H8Aut4kR3D4mhaxSq6q4l071V8gjU+2XGLDstzKgJY2/8w/SB+o 4HaYGI5XRLjUcJAuEOCIx5PFh7jf36AV0ONjw+JbCLJzXwJomiVucMEMUAYQSp13Dv8VDF BX4EIKPsdM5i3ApPbVS70xbYVK2qAxArjnwarueTx+RQthGBjymYKH/NIjAS+KGFSf9on1 YQgxVi53WihZPmUOgOsFJKYD3foa9EMCbW5X5rYRdh/Jgwg2QuCQS85sSsAFASfABsp4NP Z+pl3tg+OxzV/WslEiYjLSMPVSyaztQFg58VW9CQ5cwyha54qjC5HFGtddeC6g== Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 09:12:14 +0200 From: Nicolai Buchwitz To: Jakub Kicinski Cc: netdev-bot+sashiko@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org, richardcochran@gmail.com, kory.maincent@bootlin.com, vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev, jjc@jclark.com, florian.fainelli@broadcom.com, opendmb@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: don't require the hwtstamp NDOs when a PHY provides timestamping In-Reply-To: <20260921163746.5d5d0070@kernel.org> References: <20260918095540.34286-1-nb@tipi-net.de> <178998466913.2160803.80702009306181180@kernel.org> <8037c32ce6fef79a74ee56973bf185c2@tipi-net.de> <20260921163746.5d5d0070@kernel.org> Message-ID: <3663f91fa60a78f8eeadb6983cf0d70f@tipi-net.de> X-Sender: nb@tipi-net.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Last-TLS-Session-Version: TLSv1.3 On 22.9.2026 01:37, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 12:23:37 +0200 Nicolai Buchwitz wrote: > [...] >> No, IMHO not here. It would change change behaviour that never worked. >> Thus I would suggest fixing this with a follow-up to net-next. > > Not sure I agree that it's separate but whatever, I don't want the > ioctl > fix to miss rc5. > > I'd prefer the netlink fix to also target net, tho. Netlink > functionality should match the IOCTL, targeting -next would put user > space in an awkward position when deciding between the two. Ack, see https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260922070813.1458713-1-nb@tipi-net.de/ Thanks Nicolai