From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Larry Woodman <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
"Wangkai (Kevin C)" <wangkai86@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] fs/dcache: Limit # of negative dentries
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:47:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41d8db7e-4538-aaaf-6d65-574b5c0ffd7a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171010155439.d8f4bc552a81290fd5bec8cd@linux-foundation.org>
On 10/10/2017 06:54 PM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:20:28 -0400 Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> A rogue application can potentially create a large number of negative
>> dentries in the system consuming most of the memory available even if
>> memory controller is enabled to limit memory usage. This can impact
>> performance of other applications running on the system.
> It does seem that under these circumstances it is pretty silly of us to
> reclaim useful things in order to instantiate zillions of -ve dentries.
I am talking about a misbehaving program due to bug or an intentional
rogue program.
>
> Dentries are subject to kmemcg handling. Does this not help avoid
> "impacting performance of other applications"?
AFAIK, the dentry kmem_cache isn't memcg aware. So memcg can't really
constrain the dentry allocation.
>> We have customers seeing soft lockup and unresponsive system when
>> tearing down a container because of the large number of negative
>> dentries accumulated during its up time that had to be cleaned up at
>> exit time when the container's filesystem was unmounted. So we need
>> to do something about it.
> It's a somewhat separate issue, but maybe we're missing a cond_resched
> somewhere? Seeing such a softlockup's output would help.
>
I don't have a console log. I got this information indirectly via some
of our customer-facing engineers.
Cheers,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-11 20:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-18 18:20 Waiman Long
2017-09-18 18:20 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] fs/dcache: Relocate dentry_kill() after lock_parent() Waiman Long
2017-09-18 18:20 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] fs/dcache: Track & report number of negative dentries Waiman Long
2017-09-18 18:20 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] fs/dcache: Limit numbers " Waiman Long
2017-09-18 18:20 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] fs/dcache: Enable automatic pruning " Waiman Long
2017-09-18 18:20 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] fs/dcache: Track count of negative dentries forcibly killed Waiman Long
2017-09-18 18:20 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] fs/dcache: Autotuning of negative dentry limit Waiman Long
2017-10-05 15:41 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] fs/dcache: Limit # of negative dentries Waiman Long
2017-10-10 22:54 ` Andrew Morton
2017-10-11 20:47 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2017-10-11 20:56 ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-11 21:08 ` Waiman Long
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