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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: phasta@kernel.org, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
Cc: Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	Daniel Almeida <dwlsalmeida@gmail.com>,
	Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@igalia.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] dma-fence: Fix races of fence callbacks versus destructors by locking
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2026 12:26:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66349a9f-d9dd-498b-b118-1c79d3aa3cca@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74bd33a06b75c291c3e2eda19e0250fbd280c49b.camel@mailbox.org>

On 6/9/26 07:52, Philipp Stanner wrote:
...
>>
>> In detail calling the callbacks without holding locks allows all implementations who need it to explicitly take locks in the order they want.
> 
> Didn't you say a few mails above that the implementation should not use
> the fence lock for its own purposes?

The usual use case the drivers have is this here:

dma_fence_lock_irqsave(fence, flags);
was_signaled = dma_fence_test_signaled(fence);
if (!was_signaled)
	dma_fence_signal(fence);
dma_fence_unlock_irqrestore(fence, flags);

if (!was_signaled)
	cleanup();

This is actually what you and me came up with for the KFD when we removed the return code for dma_fence_signal().

Taking the lock around the enable_signaling() callback has the exact same reason, preventing the fence from signaling between testing and calling dma_fence_signal(). The problem with that approach is that cleanup() now suddenly runs under the fence lock as well.

So you are left with few options: Either the fence lock is external, which we don't want because that make the fence non-independent, or cleanup() defers work to irq_work or work_structs, which creates numerous lifetime issues.

When enable_signaling would be independent of the fence lock we could avoid all of this and just use a normal spin_lock() for the cleanup.

Regards,
Christian.

> 
> 
> P.
> 
>>
>> If you call it with the lock held you enforce the fence lock the be the outermost lock.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christian.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-09 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-08 14:24 Philipp Stanner
2026-06-08 15:01 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-06-08 15:17   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-08 15:23     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-06-08 15:30       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-06-08 15:30       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-08 16:16         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-06-09  8:02           ` Christian König
2026-06-09  8:54             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-09  8:43           ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-09  8:47             ` Christian König
2026-06-09  9:00               ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-08 15:07 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-06-08 15:15   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-08 15:35 ` Christian König
2026-06-08 15:41   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-08 17:34     ` Christian König
2026-06-08 17:59       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-06-08 18:32         ` Christian König
2026-06-08 18:39           ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-06-08 18:47             ` Christian König
2026-06-08 19:25               ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-06-09  8:17                 ` Christian König
2026-06-09  5:52               ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-09 10:26                 ` Christian König [this message]
2026-06-09 10:42                   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-09 10:53                     ` Christian König
2026-06-09 11:39                       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-09 13:19               ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-09 13:34                 ` Christian König
2026-06-10 14:25                   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-10 15:15                     ` Christian König
2026-06-11  8:35                       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-11  9:14                         ` Christian König
2026-06-11  9:50                           ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-11 11:06                             ` Christian König
2026-06-09 13:36                 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2026-06-09 13:57                   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-09 14:03                     ` Christian König
2026-06-15  8:29           ` Properly synchronize dma_fence->signaled bit (Was: Re: [RFC PATCH] dma-fence: Fix races of fence callbacks versus destructors by locking) Philipp Stanner
2026-06-15  9:57             ` Christian König
2026-06-16 11:25               ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-17  9:46                 ` Christian König
2026-06-17 10:16                   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-17 13:03                     ` Christian König
2026-06-17 13:21                       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-06-17 13:50                   ` Gary Guo

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