From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/5] PTP: add PTP_SYS_OFFSET emulation via cross timestamps infrastructure
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 15:23:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <66e145c8-0e7c-5ae4-486b-385a058f7e05@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170120140216.GA1358@potion>
On 20/01/2017 15:02, Radim Krcmar wrote:
> 2017-01-20 14:36+0100, Paolo Bonzini:
>> On 20/01/2017 14:07, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 01:55:27PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20/01/2017 13:20, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>>>> kernel/time/timekeeping.c | 79 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>> Why not leave this in drivers/ptp/ptp_chardev.c?
>>>
>>> timekeeper_lock
>>
>> Why does emulate_ptp_sys_offset need it, if the current PTP_SYS_OFFSET
>> code doesn't? Is the latency acceptable (considering this is a raw spin
>> lock) or is there a seqlock that we can use instead (such as tk_core.seq
>> like in get_device_system_crosststamp)?
>
> The spinlock prevents writers to take the tk_core.seq, which means that
> time cannot be changed during that.
>
> The simplest alternative would be to use tk_core.seq for all our reads,
> but that would increse the chance of re-reading, even infinitely.
How much? If a hypercall takes 1 microsecond, and PTP_MAX_SAMPLES is
25, we should be done in less than 50 microseconds. If update_wall-time
is called with 250 Hz frequency (sounds like a lot), that's still 4000
microseconds so the probability of even 3-4 consecutive retries should
be very low.
> But we don't need to read everything with the same time base -- if the
> time is changed (by NTP/user/...) between our reads, then the value will
> be off, but if writer took tk_core.seq just to accumulate current time,
> then the time after accumulation stays the same and it would work as if
> we had the tk_core.seq for the whole time.
You mean only check seqlock separately for each sample, but restart the
entire loop upon changes to cs_was_changed_seq or clock_was_set_seq?
That would work too.
> Another solution would be to do just one one read and set it to all
> saples -- the difference between t[i] and t[i+2] would be 0. We are
> quite sure the just one read is enough, this hack could be even better.
I'd be afraid of messing up chrony's stats...
Paolo
>>>>> + if (ptp->info->emulate_ptp_sys_offset_mean) {
>>>>> + err = emulate_ptp_sys_offset(ptp->info, sysoff, arg);
>>>>> + break;
>>>>> + }
>>>>
>>>> I think this should be simply "if (!ptp->info->gettime64)" and,
>>>> likewise, there should be an emulation based getcrosststamp in
>>>> ptp_clock_gettime.
>>>>
>>>> Paolo
>>>
>>> gettime64 is called directly via ptp_clock_gettime.
>>
>> Yes, but ptp_clock_gettime can be taught to use getcrosststamp instead.
>
> I agree,
>
> if (!gettime64)
> use getcrosststamp
>
> and KVM PTP device will not implement gettime64().
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-20 14:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-20 12:20 [patch 0/5] KVM virtual PTP driver (v3) Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 12:20 ` [patch 1/5] KVM: x86: provide realtime host clock via vsyscall notifiers Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 12:20 ` [patch 2/5] KVM: x86: add KVM_HC_CLOCK_OFFSET hypercall Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 12:20 ` [patch 3/5] kvmclock: export kvmclock clocksource pointer Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 12:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-20 12:20 ` [patch 4/5] PTP: add PTP_SYS_OFFSET emulation via cross timestamps infrastructure Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 12:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-20 13:07 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 13:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-20 13:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 14:02 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-20 14:23 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2017-01-20 14:31 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-01-20 18:30 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-20 20:25 ` Richard Cochran
2017-01-23 13:19 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-23 18:44 ` Richard Cochran
2017-01-23 19:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-24 5:43 ` Richard Cochran
2017-01-24 11:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-24 11:35 ` Richard Cochran
2017-01-23 23:06 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-24 5:32 ` Richard Cochran
2017-01-24 8:15 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-01-20 12:20 ` [patch 5/5] PTP: add kvm PTP driver Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 12:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-20 13:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 14:12 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-20 14:20 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-20 15:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 17:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-20 18:08 ` Radim Krcmar
2017-01-20 19:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-21 8:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-20 13:10 ` [patch 0/5] KVM virtual PTP driver (v3) Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-20 14:51 [patch 0/5] KVM virtual PTP driver (v4) Marcelo Tosatti
2017-01-20 14:51 ` [patch 4/5] PTP: add PTP_SYS_OFFSET emulation via cross timestamps infrastructure Marcelo Tosatti
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