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From: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	"linux-coco@lists.linux.dev" <linux-coco@lists.linux.dev>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2026 07:48:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CO1PR11MB48358E3116CC6CF34E6437658C812@CO1PR11MB4835.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260917140159.1163281-1-aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>

> From: Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm) <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2026 10:02 PM
> 
> This series adds the IOMMUFD and PCI/TSM infrastructure required for device
> assignment. It introduces an IOMMUFD-owned vIOMMU provider registry and
> the
> IOMMU_VDEVICE_TSM_REQ ioctl.
> 
> The series adds a vIOMMU provider abstraction that allows a subsystem
> other than the physical IOMMU driver to implement a vIOMMU type. It groups
> the vIOMMU operations with their module owner and private data, and makes
> that implementation discoverable during vIOMMU allocation.
> 
> External providers are selected by exact vIOMMU type. When no provider
> matches, vIOMMU creation falls back to the physical IOMMU driver. Once a
> provider matches, its result is authoritative and failures do not trigger
> fallback.
> 

I wonder whether this abstraction is necessary.

The underlying IOMMU driver still needs to understand this vIOMMU type
to check vendor-specific compatibility and provide the relevant hardware
parameters. There may also be further vendor-specific interactions between
the IOMMU and TSM drivers. In that case, the abstraction risks becoming
little more than a connection between two vendor-specific drivers, while
making it harder to maintain a clear scope for its operations.

Would it be simpler to provide helper APIs and let the IOMMU driver use
its own interface to delegate vIOMMU operations to the TSM driver? 

From iommufd's perspective, the vIOMMU type and its operations would
still be handled by the IOMMU driver.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-24  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17 14:01 Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 01/11] vfio: cache KVM VM file references instead of raw struct kvm pointers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-30  7:19     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 02/11] vfio: cdev: Reject duplicate bind before updating KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-25  5:49     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 03/11] iommufd/device: Associate KVM file pointer with iommufd_device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 04/11] iommufd/viommu: Keep a reference to the KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-30 13:28   ` Vasant Hegde
2026-10-02  5:26     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 05/11] iommu: Add a helper to validate a vIOMMU parent Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  5:48     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 10:36         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 12:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 15:39             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 16:17               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 18:08                 ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-28 18:20                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 22:24                     ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-28 23:03                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29  5:55                         ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-29 12:30                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29 23:15                             ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-29 23:30                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 06/11] iommu: Add a helper to query vIOMMU hardware parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  5:59     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 07/11] coco: tsm: Expose active-user lifetime references Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 08/11] iommufd: Add vIOMMU provider support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  6:08     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28  3:41         ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-29  6:14           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-29 12:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29 12:45               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-29 13:06                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29 15:58                   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-29 19:10                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 10:51         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 09/11] iommufd: Add the vdevice TSM request ioctl Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-18 13:09   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-09-18 13:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-30  8:03     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-30 13:26       ` Vasant Hegde
2026-09-30 14:03         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-30 14:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 10/11] PCI/TSM: Remove the legacy guest request interface Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 11/11] PCI/TSM: Add reference-counted contexts for vdevice providers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24  8:17   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  8:15     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 18:47   ` Sonang Patel
2026-09-28 23:08     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-02  6:14       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-02 13:06         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:17 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-24  7:48 ` Tian, Kevin [this message]
2026-09-24 19:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28  3:35     ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-28 13:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  8:29   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28  3:41     ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-28  3:55       ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  6:46   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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