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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Linus Walleij" <linusw@kernel.org>,
	"Kim Phillips" <kim.phillips@freescale.com>,
	"jiale yao" <19888972804@163.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>, <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Biju Das" <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com>,
	"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<ukleinek@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pinctrl: mcp23s08: reject devices without match data
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2026 13:07:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DLYK485WJPQ8.349OCC3FOJNFL@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <asILHNE0iDP2jVVR@ashevche-desk.local>

On Sun Oct 4, 2026 at 10:15 AM CEST, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> +Cc: Danilo
> (as you were involved in cleaning this up in the past and being co-maintainer
>  of driver core)
>
> On Sun, Oct 04, 2026 at 01:06:07AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2026 at 12:19 PM Andy Shevchenko
>> <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Oct 02, 2026 at 11:52:41AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote:
>> > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2026 at 8:59 AM Andy Shevchenko
>
> ...
>
>> > > The entire name of the thing feels like debugfs-footgun
>> > > territory for example.
>> >
>> > Yeah, I can't find neither a thing on LWN.net nor in the in-tree documentation.
>> > The only useful piece of information is (in kernel-doc of struct bus_type):
>> >
>> >   driver_override
>> >     Set to true if this bus supports the driver_override mechanism, which
>> >     allows userspace to force a specific driver to bind to a device via a sysfs
>> >     attribute.
>> 
>> This whole thing is weird, but OK.
>> 
>> Since we have a ton of drivers depending on match data we either
>> have to patch them all to bail out if match data is NULL (like this
>> patch does) or, which is equivalent, opt out of driver_override
>> that much is certain.
>> 
>> What I don't get is what this is intended for. What is the use case?
>> The commit says this is for VFIO. Shouldn't it be opt-in and turned
>> on only for VFIO then?

I think VFIO could use a different (less generic) mechanism that is more
integrated with the corresponding bus to e.g. allow userspace to decide to get a
PF bound to a VFIO driver for passthrough.

The existing driver_override is convinient for this case, but ideally we want to
express that a driver can only be bound to the corresponding host and VFIO
drivers.

I think the situation for SPI is pretty similar.

Unfortunately, it is a uAPI already, so we can't really get rid of it.

But I agree that we should be more defensive about this and make it a driver
opt-in. Uwe already prepared a patch for this [1].

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/driver-core/0f7446324f6a0c8f0153d6532d92a6eeecd6a308.1790612298.git.u.kleine-koenig@baylibre.com/

      reply	other threads:[~2026-10-07 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-25 13:38 Jiale Yao
2026-09-26 10:07 ` Biju Das
2026-09-26 10:23   ` jiale yao
2026-09-26 10:28     ` jiale yao
2026-09-28  6:03     ` Biju Das
2026-09-28  7:24       ` jiale yao
2026-09-28  7:32         ` Biju Das
2026-09-28  7:54           ` jiale yao
2026-09-28  8:05             ` Biju Das
2026-10-01 20:07         ` Linus Walleij
2026-10-02  6:58           ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-02  9:52             ` Linus Walleij
2026-10-02 10:18               ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-03 23:06                 ` Linus Walleij
2026-10-04  8:15                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-07 11:07                     ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]

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