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From: david@lang.hm
To: Richard Yao <ryao@ic.sunysb.edu>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UNIX Compatibility
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:23:34 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1105241116190.23692@asgard.lang.hm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=q7tDVkahrnng7+BJhvxh=gx71ng@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 24 May 2011, Richard Yao wrote:

> With that out of the way, I am under the impression that the Linux
> kernel code is in some way incompatible with the Single Unix
> Specification (i.e. the thing required for an OS to be certified as
> being UNIX).

I beleive it's less a matter of being incompatible and more a matter of 
not having been certified as being compatible.

a historic note: at the time that Linux was getting started, getting 
certified as Unix was a very expensive undertaking (and Linux definantly 
did not comply in the early days anyway). Even getting the full specs was 
an expensive thing (at least for an individual)

as such, there are probably some differences that crept in (like the error 
codes you refer to below), but the biggest difference is that there are 
additional system calls available on Linux compared to Unix

That being said, the differences are minor enough that many flavors of 
Unix have implemented Linxu compatibility layers to support unmodified 
linux binarires, and recompiling code written for Unix almost always 'just 
works' on Linux (the biggest issue is usually libraries)

> It seems Linus Torvalds wanted to use the UNIX System V call codes
> when he was working on Linux 0.0.1, but he lacked a reference at the
> time, so he only got them partially right. Considering that the error
> codes were originally intended to be compatible with UNIX System V, it
> might be worth changing them to match. The Linux 3.0 change would
> probably be a good time for this.

and what exactly would the advantage be of breaking backwards 
compatibility with all existing linux code?

I don't see any real advantage.

David Lang

      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-24 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-24 11:49 Richard Yao
2011-05-24 13:06 ` Theodore Tso
2011-05-24 13:54   ` Michael Witten
2011-05-24 14:49   ` Richard Yao
2011-05-24 18:16     ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-24 18:31       ` Michael Witten
2011-05-25  4:18         ` Mike Galbraith
2011-05-25 14:20           ` Michael Witten
2011-05-25 14:36             ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 15:17               ` Michael Witten
2011-05-25 17:38                 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 20:33                   ` Casey Schaufler
2011-05-26 11:30                   ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2011-05-26 11:30                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2011-05-26 12:07                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-26 12:24                     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2011-05-26 13:35                       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 21:06               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-05-25 14:38             ` Ted Ts'o
2011-05-25 15:17             ` Mike Galbraith
2011-05-25 15:21               ` Michael Witten
2011-05-24 18:23     ` david [this message]

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