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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: Samiullah Khawaja <skhawaja@google.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	<iommu@lists.linux.dev>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	"David Matlack" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
	Vipin Sharma <vipinsh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/18] iommu: Implement IOMMU Live update FLB callbacks
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 17:25:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <as16hl29Kepg9AcT@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <asmj6ErFqQMJe0_u@google.com>

On Sat, Oct 10, 2026 at 03:18:11AM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2026 at 04:31:01PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 12:48:18AM +0000, Samiullah Khawaja wrote:
> > > +struct iommu_flb_obj {
> > > +	struct mutex lock;
> > > +	struct iommu_flb_ser *ser;
> > > +
> > > +	struct iommu_hw_array_ser *curr_iommu_array;
> > > +	struct iommu_domain_array_ser *curr_domain_array;
> > > +	struct iommu_device_array_ser *curr_device_array;
> > > +};
> > 
> > IIUIC, there should be one pair of obj + ser in the entire system:
> >  - old kernel has one outgoing obj + ser
> >  - new kernel has one incoming obj + ser
> > right?
> > 
> > If so, things in iommu_flb_obj (except ser) are all transient, and
> > there is no need to preserve them across the two kernels.
> 
> The contents of iommu_flb_obj are not preserved. Only the contents of
> iommu_flb_ser are preserved. Other "curr_" structs in iommu_flb_obj are
> only there for quick access to add new iommus, domains and devices.
> > 
> > It also feels redundant to have this iommu_flb_obj structure. Why
> > not link liveupdate_flb_op_args directly to the ser? Then, things
> > in iommu_flb_obj could be global?
> 
> The liveupdate_flb_op_args is linked directly to the ser, but it only
> contains the physical address for the next kernel. Basically LUO
> provides following mechanism to handle FLBs:
> 
> - data: ser structure for the next kernel.
> - obj: Live object that can be used in the current or next kernel for
>   easy access or staging.
> 
> For example here, iommu_flb_obj has pointers to the end of the array
> linked list of each type.
> 
> Also note LUO keeps separate incoming and outgoing data and obj for each
> FLB. In the new kernel both can exist at the same time, as the incoming
> one stays until finish and preserving for the next live update creates
> the outgoing one. So keeping these in the obj avoids managing two sets
> of globals and their lifetime in the iommu code.

Could incoming and outgoing objects exist in the same time?

Correct me if I am wrong: I expect the lifecycle of an incoming
object will end once liveupdate completes, and the outgoing one
can only exist after that?

Nicolin

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-13  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-21  0:48 [PATCH v5 00/18] iommu: Add live update state preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 01/18] memfd: export memfd_get_seals() Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 02/18] iommu: Implement IOMMU Live update FLB callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-06 23:31   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-10  3:18     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-13  0:25       ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] iommu/pages: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve/restore iommu pages Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 04/18] iommupt: Implement preserve/unpreserve/restore callbacks Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 05/18] iommu: Implement IOMMU domain preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 06/18] iommu: Implement device and IOMMU HW preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-07  3:21   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-10  3:27     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 07/18] iommu/vt-d: Implement device and iommu preserve/unpreserve ops Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-08  7:54   ` Baolu Lu
2026-10-10  0:10     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 08/18] iommu/vt-d: Clear unpreserved context entries during shutdown Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-09  0:43   ` Baolu Lu
2026-10-10  0:32     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 09/18] iommu: Add APIs to get iommu and device preserved state Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 10/18] iommu/vt-d: Restore IOMMU state and reclaimed domain ids Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-09  1:44   ` Baolu Lu
2026-10-10  1:58     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 11/18] iommu: Restore and reattach preserved domains to devices Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-07 19:44   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-10  3:51     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 12/18] iommu/vt-d: Handle reattach of the restored domain Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-09  2:24   ` Baolu Lu
2026-10-10  2:09     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 13/18] iommu/vt-d: Preserve PASID table of preserved device Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-09  3:38   ` Baolu Lu
2026-10-10  2:31     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 14/18] iommufd: Implement ioctl to mark HWPT for preservation Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-07 20:17   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-10  3:52     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 15/18] iommufd: Persist iommu hardware pagetables for live update Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-23 23:59   ` John Starks
2026-09-24 17:49     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-07 21:31   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-10-10  4:03     ` Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 16/18] iommufd: Add APIs to preserve/unpreserve a vfio cdev Samiullah Khawaja
2026-10-07 22:00   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 17/18] vfio/pci: Preserve the iommufd state of the " Samiullah Khawaja
2026-09-21  0:48 ` [PATCH v5 18/18] iommufd/selftest: Add test to verify iommufd preservation Samiullah Khawaja

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