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From: Youngjun Park <her0gyugyu@gmail.com>
To: Matthias Goergens <matthias.goergens@gmail.com>
Cc: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] mm/swap: reserve swap areas for deliberate offload
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 03:13:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <asKXZv5SxBtxQxqf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260928151944.2686626-1-matthias.goergens@gmail.com>

On 2026-09-28 23:19, Matthias Goergens wrote:

Hi Matthias !

> > Just like we already have a "swappiness=" parameter in the reclaim
> > interface, perhaps adding a "swap.tier=" would be better and much
> > cleaner to achieve the same goal? Based on Youngjun's work here:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260916183437.2946306-1-youngjun.park@lge.com/
>
> Thanks, I think that's the right base.  I tried it: on top of
> Youngjun's v11, a "swap.tier=" argument to memory.reclaim is about 40
> lines.  In a VM with zram at a higher priority than a disk swap
> device, and a cgroup whose tier mask allowed only the disk, ordinary
> reclaim in that cgroup stayed on the disk, while memory.reclaim with
> "swap.tier=" pointing at zram went to zram only.

There is an earlier attempt that may be worth a look.
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260618044857.69439-1-jiahao.kernel@gmail.com/

If you go this way, the discussion in that thread worth refering too.

> What it doesn't cover yet is reclaim outside any configured cgroup:
> under global pressure, a cgroup nobody configured still reached the

Right, so for now every cgroup has to be set to exclude zram, unless
another idea or more code covers it.

> zram tier.  So for v3 I'd like to add a system-wide limit on which
> tiers pressure reclaim may use, on top of the per-cgroup settings.
> I'll wait for Youngjun's v12 and build on that.

I have looked through the whole series, and I will keep this use case
in mind while working on v12. :)

Also, to share what I had in mind, I was planning a sysfs interface
for each swap tier, /sys/kernel/mm/swap/tiers/<tier name> (exact
naming TBD). Maybe the system-wide limit could be handled there as one
of its use cases?

Let's discuss it in more detail after v12.

Thanks,
Youngjun

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-04 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-26  4:55 Matthias Goergens
2026-09-26  4:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] selftests: zram: track owned devices and report cleanup failures Matthias Goergens
2026-09-26  4:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] mm: restrict offload-only swap to proactive reclaim Matthias Goergens
2026-09-26  4:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] selftests: zram: cover offload-only swap policy Matthias Goergens
2026-09-26  4:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] selftests: zram: cover retained offload-only entries Matthias Goergens
2026-09-26 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] mm/swap: reserve swap areas for deliberate offload Kairui Song
2026-09-28 15:19   ` Matthias Goergens
2026-10-04 18:13     ` Youngjun Park [this message]
2026-09-26 23:32 ` Chris Li
2026-09-27  0:03   ` Chris Li
2026-09-27 17:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2026-09-28 15:24   ` Matthias Goergens
2026-09-28  0:19 ` Chris Li
2026-09-28 15:19   ` Matthias Goergens
2026-09-29  0:27     ` Chris Li
2026-09-28  5:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-09-28 15:19   ` Matthias Goergens

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