From: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
To: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.dev>
Cc: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>,
linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, broonie@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com,
perex@perex.cz, amade@asmblr.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] ASoC: Intel: avs: Soundwire support
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2026 19:03:13 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aus0GT3ht1oEY2mc@parshuram> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9672276-5616-4609-98c1-5b9bdd06cf05@linux.dev>
On 04-11-26, 12:52, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> On 11/4/26 10:14, Cezary Rojewski wrote:
> > On 11/3/2026 6:20 PM, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> >>
> >>> Also, the existing code fetches the PDIs based on pre-defined "dai_id".
> >>> That's not the case for the avs-driver. It simply asks: "is any PDI
> >>> free?" and assigns it for the substream if one is found.
> >>> No predefining. Again, this aligns with how HDAudio streaming is done.
> >> Yeah but at the end of the day there's a 1:1 mapping between cpu_dai and
> >> PDI, no?
> >>
> >> All PDIs are created equal, a dynamic mapping doesn't make things more
> >> efficient. It just makes things more complex to debug since you don't
> >> have a fixed mapping between dailinks/stream/cpu_dai/PDI.
> >>
> >> Put differently, couldn't the AVS driver work around that fixed mapping
> >> to avoid changes to legacy platforms that have shipped many moons ago?
> >
> > Kind disagree on the debugging part. Having SDW streaming follow
> > closely to what is done for HDAudio from the beginning (no hardcodes)
> > makes it easier for a developer to debug stuff. OTOH if one of these
> > two follows a completely different path, the developer has to have such
> > hardcodes in mind when debugging the PCM code or even when looking at
> > the topology.
> >
> > At the same time, I'm not going anywhere and I do intend to work with
> > Peter and Kai to update the common code. Simply put, such a refactor
> > would be routed through SOF GH first.
> The machine driver selects the first available cpu_dai when creating a
> dailink. It doesn't really add much value to add a second level of
> freedom to select PDIs, since in practice it'll select the first as
> well. PDIs have no moral equivalent in HDaudio, it's a Cadence-specific IP.
>
> Also there is already a degree of freedom in the allocation of
> stream_tag, which is used for DMA support. That one makes sense since
> DMAs may be used for non-SoundWire things (HDMI, trace, probe, etc).
>
> That's 2 degrees of freedom on 3 levels, do you really need full
> configurability?
I dont see any gain from this approach. I would reconsider and see if we
can reuse things
--
~Vinod
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-04 13:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-03 13:49 Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-03 13:49 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] soundwire: intel: Define stubs when library is disabled Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-03 13:49 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] soundwire: intel: Allow for dynamic assignment of PDIs Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-03 13:49 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] soundwire: intel: Split PDIs and DAIs initialization Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-03 13:49 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] ASoC: Intel: avs: Pass irq to dsp_interrupt callback Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-03 13:49 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] ASoC: Intel: avs: SoundWire support Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-03 13:49 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] ASoC: Intel: avs: Expose common PCM functions Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-03 13:49 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] ASoC: Intel: avs: SoundWire PCM BE operations Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-03 17:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] ASoC: Intel: avs: Soundwire support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2026-11-04 9:14 ` Cezary Rojewski
2026-11-04 11:52 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2026-11-04 13:33 ` Vinod Koul [this message]
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