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From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/17] KVM: TDX: Adjust the topup count of DPAMT page pairs for splitting S-EPT
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 22:28:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ca53c3bd37218828822a9b990a0900ca2541fd9e.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <atV5fDnckj+3V0D/@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Mon, 2026-10-19 at 09:59 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2026 at 01:21:14AM +0800, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> > On Thu, 2026-10-15 at 12:47 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > > The point of spelling it all out was to make the contact clear and the
> > > > implementation doesn't have to assume anything about the callers.
> > > Hmm, but it's hard for the caller to know if private_page is true.
> > > We should avoid leaking TDX specific knowledge to KVM MMU, right?
> > 
> > Wait, why won't the caller won't know if it might map a new private page? This
> > is basically to cover the +1 part of the "+ 1 -1" in the calculation. I was
> > thinking to set it to true for normal ept violation (like an accept) and false
> > for split.
> In TDX's .topup_external_cache() hook, tdx_topup_external_pamt_cache() always
> needs to allocate DPAMT pages for guest private pages, even for the split case.
> 
> However, from KVM MMU's perspective, it is unnatural to specify "private_page"
> as true when tdp_mmu_alloc_sp_for_split() is preparing the mid-level page table
> page.
> 
> So, I think we should keep the current convention of just specifying
> min_nr_spts, and let the TDX-specific tdx_topup_external_pamt_cache() account
> for the +1 part for guest private pages, which is invisible and should not be
> exposed to KVM MMU.
> 
> So, what about
> 
> topup(bool with_root_spt, int min_nr_spts) ?

Hmm, ok I think I see what you are saying. Because each 4KB page will be
confined to a 2MB aligned region, we need at most 1 extra page pair. Not 512.
But the core MMU should not know this at all. Hmmm....

Yea let's go with your suggestion. Can you share the implementation here first
though so we can close it without risk of more respins?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-21 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28  9:07 [PATCH v4 00/17] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:08 ` [PATCH v4 01/17] x86/virt/tdx: Enhance tdx_pamt_get/put() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2026-10-01 23:02   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10 10:18     ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-12 23:18       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-15  3:41         ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-15 18:11           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-19  6:35             ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-21 21:28               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-22  9:21                 ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:08 ` [PATCH v4 02/17] x86/virt/tdx: Add a SEAMCALL wrapper to demote a 2MB huge page Yan Zhao
2026-10-02  0:54   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-12  9:31     ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-12 22:16       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-14  9:40         ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-14 18:32           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-15  6:11             ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-15  9:28               ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-15  9:49                 ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-15 18:30                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-19 11:04                     ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-21 22:02                       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-22  8:46                         ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:08 ` [PATCH v4 03/17] KVM: TDX: Reset private huge pages after S-EPT page removal Yan Zhao
2026-10-07  0:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  9:22     ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:09 ` [PATCH v4 04/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Prevent huge page promotion for mirror roots in fault path Yan Zhao
2026-10-07  0:32   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-28  9:09 ` [PATCH v4 05/17] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2026-10-07  0:33   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  7:41     ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:10 ` [PATCH v4 06/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Allocate DPAMT pages for vCPU-induced page split Yan Zhao
2026-10-07 15:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  6:37     ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-10  6:40       ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-12 16:41       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-28  9:10 ` [PATCH v4 07/17] KVM: TDX: Add core support for splitting/demoting 2MB S-EPT mappings to 4KB Yan Zhao
2026-10-07 21:52   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  6:34     ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-12 16:40       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-14  5:39         ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:10 ` [PATCH v4 08/17] KVM: TDX: Adjust the topup count of DPAMT page pairs for splitting S-EPT Yan Zhao
2026-10-07 22:48   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-08  1:16     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09  9:08       ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-09 22:12         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  5:13           ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-12 16:36             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-14  5:36               ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-14 18:34                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-15  4:47                   ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-15 17:21                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-19  1:59                       ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-21 22:28                         ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2026-10-22  7:24                           ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-09  8:39     ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-09 22:11       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  5:18         ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:10 ` [PATCH v4 09/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce hugepage_set_guest_inhibit() Yan Zhao
2026-10-07 23:57   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  6:00     ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 10/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Add a TDP MMU API to split huge pages for mirror roots Yan Zhao
2026-10-08  0:25   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-28  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 11/17] KVM: TDX: Honor the guest's accept level contained in an EPT violation Yan Zhao
2026-10-08  1:05   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-09  9:33     ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-09 22:00       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-10-10  5:42         ` Yan Zhao
2026-10-12 16:14           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-28  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 12/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Add support for splitting S-EPT entry under non-vCPU context Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 13/17] [GMEM-DEPENDENT] KVM: guest_memfd: Add helpers to get start/end gfns give gmem+slot+pgoff Yan Zhao
2026-10-08 23:16   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-28  9:11 ` [PATCH v4 14/17] [GMEM-DEPENDENT] KVM: guest_memfd: Split kvm_gmem_invalidate_start() to start() and zap() Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:12 ` [PATCH v4 15/17] [GMEM-DEPENDENT] KVM: guest_memfd: Add a pre-zap hook .gmem_prezap() Yan Zhao
2026-10-14  7:01   ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:12 ` [PATCH v4 16/17] [GMEM-DEPENDENT] KVM: TDX: Implement .gmem_prezap() hook to split S-EPT Yan Zhao
2026-09-28  9:12 ` [PATCH v4 17/17] KVM: TDX: Turn on PG_LEVEL_2M Yan Zhao

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