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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Vineet Gupta <vgupta@kernel.org>
Cc: Bradley Morgan <brads@mainlining.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>, Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>,
	John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org, linux-csky@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] Add two-byte cmpxchg emulation and wire it into the architectures
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 12:53:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfc7914d-586e-4858-9a22-05b107fb0dc0@paulmck-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ddde3609-f068-4f26-92c0-e9244f290eaf@kernel.org>

On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 12:13:42PM -0700, Vineet Gupta wrote:
> On 9/22/26 11:59, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 07:37:54PM +0100, Bradley Morgan wrote:
> > > On 22 September 2026 19:29:32 BST, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 05:33:49PM +0000, Bradley Morgan wrote:
> > > > > This is v4 of the two byte cmpxchg emulation series, wiring
> > > > > cmpxchg_emu_u16() into arc, csky, sh and xtensa.
> > > > > 
> > > > > v3 had changed cmpxchg_emu_u8()'s success return to (u16)old, which was
> > > > > a 16-bit mask in the 8-bit function, and a dead one at that, since the
> > > > > compare guarantees the low 8 bits of old are the byte being returned.
> > > > > David Laight asked where that cast came from. v4 returns old unmasked,
> > > > > the exact behaviour the one-byte emulator always had, so nothing that
> > > > > uses cmpxchg_emu_u8() through the widened prototypes sees a change.
> > > > > 
> > > > > David also noted v3 extended the (unsigned long)(0 ? *ptr : (old)) type
> > > > > check to csky and sh but not arc and xtensa. v4 adds it there too, so a
> > > > > cmpxchg(&p, 4, 5) fails to compile on every architecture in the series,
> > > > > verified with each architecture's macro instantiated standalone.
> > > > > 
> > > > > While adding the type check to arc, the switch subject turned out to be
> > > > > sizeof((_p_)), the pointer, not sizeof(*(_p_)), the pointee. On 32-bit
> > > > > arc the switch was always 4, so the size 1 and size 2 cases were dead
> > > > > code and every sub-word cmpxchg() went through the 32-bit llock/scond
> > > > > pair, comparing whole words against sub-word values, so the compare
> > > > > almost never succeeded. The switch now tests the pointee, and the u8
> > > > > path it was always meant to dispatch actually runs, so the one-byte
> > > > > emulation works on arc for the first time since the sizeof bug landed
> > > > > with the original cmpxchg_emu_u8() wiring.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The host test of 972 cases across both halfword offsets against a byte
> > > > > level reference model still passes, and a 20000 case randomized run
> > > > > checking the masked compare and return against a hardware cmpxchg r16
> > > > > model passes with zero mismatches.
> > > > > 
> > > > > David pointed out on v1 that a u16 prototype does not compile warning
> > > > > free when exchanging a pointer type, because the switch statements in
> > > > > the architecture macros instantiate every size case, so a pointer
> > > > > cmpxchg() type checks the two byte case, and the (u16) casts there
> > > > > warn. v4 keeps taking the old and new values as unsigned long and
> > > > > casting to u16 inside the function, so the call sites need no narrowing
> > > > > casts and pointer exchanges compile clean. The function still compares
> > > > > and returns exactly the 16 bits the caller asked for, which matches
> > > > > hardware cmpxchg r16 behaviour.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The ARMv6 wiring stays dropped from v1, per Arnd Bergmann's offer to
> > > > > take the INTEGRATOR_CM1136JFS cleanup in his platform removal series.
> > > > I have pulled these in, but only to expose them to things like the kernel
> > > > test robot.  My guess is that they will go in by some other path.
> > > > 
> > > > And to that end:
> > > > 
> > > > Reviewed-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
> > > > 
> > > > But I could of course easily be missing subtle arch-specific bugs.
> > > There are, according to sashiko, but I can't seem to make that thing happy
> > > no matter what I do
> > Hahahahaha!!!
> > 
> > We forgot to CC the architecture maintainers.
> 
> No you didn't - they were CC'ed all along.
> I'll give this is a test run and report back later.
> 
> Both the cover letter and 1/5 explain what is being done and not clearly why
> ?
> Is there an existing or proposed user for this API.
> Otherwise it will just bit-rot. No big deal from arch code pov but just
> saying...

If I remember correctly, there are workarounds for lack of two-byte
cmpxchg() in various parts of the kernel, for example, _Q_PENDING_BITS.
So this might not be without uses for all that long.

							Thanx, Paul

> Thx,
> -Vineet
> 
> > 
> > For the changes to lib/cmpxchg-emu.c:
> > 
> > 	Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> > 	Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
> > 
> > For ARC:
> > 
> > 	Cc: Vineet Gupta <vgupta@kernel.org>
> > 	linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org
> > 
> > For sh:
> > 
> > 	Cc: Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>
> > 	Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
> > 	Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
> > 	Cc: <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>
> > 
> > For csky:
> > 
> > 	Cc: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
> > 	Cc: <linux-csky@vger.kernel.org>
> > 	Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
> > 
> > For xtensa:
> > 
> > 	Cc: Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>
> > 	Cc: Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>
> > 
> > They might be willing to help.  ;-)
> > 
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> > 
> > > > > Bradley Morgan (5):
> > > > >    lib: Add two-byte cmpxchg emulation function
> > > > >    ARC: Emulate two-byte cmpxchg
> > > > >    sh: Emulate two-byte cmpxchg
> > > > >    csky: Emulate two-byte cmpxchg
> > > > >    xtensa: Emulate two-byte cmpxchg
> > > --- Thanks!
> > > "I'm not a very positive person" - Linus torvalds
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-22 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-22 17:33 Bradley Morgan
2026-09-22 17:33 ` [PATCH 1/5] lib: Add two-byte cmpxchg emulation function Bradley Morgan
2026-09-22 17:33 ` [PATCH 2/5] ARC: Emulate two-byte cmpxchg Bradley Morgan
2026-09-23  9:30   ` David Laight
2026-09-22 17:33 ` [PATCH 3/5] sh: " Bradley Morgan
2026-09-23  9:28   ` David Laight
2026-09-22 17:33 ` [PATCH 4/5] csky: " Bradley Morgan
2026-09-22 17:33 ` [PATCH 5/5] xtensa: " Bradley Morgan
2026-09-22 18:29 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Add two-byte cmpxchg emulation and wire it into the architectures Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-22 18:37   ` Bradley Morgan
2026-09-22 18:59     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-22 19:03       ` Bradley Morgan
2026-09-22 19:36         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-09-22 19:13       ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-22 19:53         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2026-09-23  9:32 ` David Laight

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