From: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] signal: Factor copy_siginfo_to_external32 from copy_siginfo_to_user32
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:54:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f35ddc94-e046-a807-9f58-04887aefe374@c-s.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9lx3t4j.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>
Le 18/04/2020 à 13:55, Eric W. Biederman a écrit :
> Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr> writes:
>
>> Le 17/04/2020 à 23:09, Eric W. Biederman a écrit :
>>>
>>> To remove the use of set_fs in the coredump code there needs to be a
>>> way to convert a kernel siginfo to a userspace compat siginfo.
>>>
>>> Call that function copy_siginfo_to_compat and factor it out of
>>> copy_siginfo_to_user32.
>>
>> I find it a pitty to do that.
>>
>> The existing function could have been easily converted to using
>> user_access_begin() + user_access_end() and use unsafe_put_user() to copy to
>> userspace to avoid copying through a temporary structure on the stack.
>>
>> With your change, it becomes impossible to do that.
>
> I don't follow. You don't like temporary structures in the coredump
> code or temporary structures in copy_siginfo_to_user32?
In copy_siginfo_to_user32()
>
> A temporary structure in copy_siginfo_to_user is pretty much required
> so that it can be zeroed to guarantee we don't pass a structure with
> holes to userspace.
Why ? We can zeroize the user structure directly, either with
clear_user() or with some not yet existing unsafe_clear_user() or
equivalent.
>
> The implementation of copy_siginfo_to_user32 used to use the equivalent
> of user_access_begin() and user_access_end() and the code was a mess
> that was very difficult to reason about. I recall their being holes
> in the structure that were being copied to userspace.
>
> Meanwhile if you are going to set all of the bytes a cache hot temporary
> structure is quite cheap.
But how can we be sure it is cache hot ? As we are using memset() to
zeroize it, it won't be loaded from memory as it will use dcbz
instruction, but at some point in time it will get flushed back to
memory, that's consuming anyway. Unless we invalidate it after the copy,
but that becomes complex.
Christophe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-19 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-14 7:01 remove set_fs calls from the exec and coredump code v2 Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 7:01 ` [PATCH 1/8] powerpc/spufs: simplify spufs core dumping Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 7:01 ` [PATCH 2/8] signal: clean up __copy_siginfo_to_user32 Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-17 21:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-17 21:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] signal: Factor copy_siginfo_to_external32 from copy_siginfo_to_user32 Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-18 8:05 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-18 11:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-19 8:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-19 9:46 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-19 9:54 ` Christophe Leroy [this message]
2020-04-19 8:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-17 21:09 ` [PATCH 2/2] signal: Remove the set_fs in binfmt_elf.c:fill_siginfo_note Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-19 8:03 ` [PATCH 2/8] signal: clean up __copy_siginfo_to_user32 Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 7:01 ` [PATCH 3/8] signal: replace __copy_siginfo_to_user32 with to_compat_siginfo Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 14:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 7:01 ` [PATCH 4/8] binfmt_elf: open code copy_siginfo_to_user to kernelspace buffer Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 13:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 7:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-15 8:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-17 13:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-17 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-17 20:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 3:01 ` Michael Ellerman
2020-04-15 6:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 7:01 ` [PATCH 5/8] binfmt_elf: remove the set_fs(KERNEL_DS) in elf_core_dump Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 7:01 ` [PATCH 6/8] binfmt_elf_fdpic: remove the set_fs(KERNEL_DS) in elf_fdpic_core_dump Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 7:01 ` [PATCH 7/8] exec: simplify the copy_strings_kernel calling convention Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-14 7:01 ` [PATCH 8/8] exec: open code copy_string_kernel Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-18 8:15 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-19 8:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-19 9:44 ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-17 22:41 ` remove set_fs calls from the exec and coredump code v2 Eric W. Biederman
2020-04-19 8:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-19 11:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
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