From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Fuad Tabba <fuad.tabba@linux.dev>
Cc: Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>,
maz@kernel.org, oupton@kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
joey.gouly@arm.com, seiden@linux.ibm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com,
yuzenghui@huawei.com, mark.rutland@arm.com, steven.price@arm.com,
qperret@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/18] KVM: arm64: Handle PSCI calls for protected VMs at EL2
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2026 13:58:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ar5Y2Usv-t0FggVA@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+EHjTyWDvVc4B0mF8+N3QJ=gVPGEY-pxPGZWuTLK6Y=PZnF1w@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Fuad,
On Thu, Sep 24, 2026 at 04:21:01PM +0100, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 13:14:00 +0100, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> [...]
> > > It's not publishing data, it's handing reset_state back.
> >
> > What's the difference? The usual pattern for acquire/release is:
> >
> > <write data>
> > <store-release flag>
> >
> > on one CPU and then on another:
> >
> > <load-acquire flag> // If this reads from the release above...
> > <read data> // ... then this is guaranteed to read the written data
> >
> > That's a message-passing shape and you would normally say that the first
> > CPU (the producer) is publishing the data to the other CPU (the consumer).
> >
> > Is this what is happening with the 'reset_state' (data) and the
> > 'power_state' (flag)? If not, then what is the shape?
>
> I don't think so, it's the other direction. That pattern is the pair
> on reset_state.reset, and it isn't in question. The pair on
> power_state, as I see it, runs the other way: the target's last
> accesses to reset_state are its reads of the payload and its clear of
> the flag in pkvm_reset_vcpu(), and the next CPU_ON's accesses are
> stores. Release on OFF, acquire on the cmpxchg: unlock then lock, with
> power_state as the lock word. The winner takes it with the cmpxchg,
> hands it to the target through reset, and the target gives it up at
> CPU_OFF. Nothing is published. What I was after is the winner's stores
> being ordered after the target's reads and its clear.
For the benefit of everybody else, we had a fire alarm in the office
yesterday evening so Fuad and I sat outside a bar with a beer and a
piece of paper and went through this together...
There are two confusing aspects to the current code:
1. The OFF->ON_PENDING transition happens on the vCPU requesting CPU_ON
whereas the ON_PENDING->ON transition happens on the incoming
(target) vCPU, with reset_state->reset used to synchronise between
the two.
2. reset_state->reset is cleared to false by the target vCPU on the
guest entry path, rather than on the CPU_OFF path.
If we address (2), then I think the sequence becomes a little easier to
reason about. The OFF->ON_PENDING transition on the requestor looks
like:
// PSCI CPU_ON
cmpxchg_relaxed(power_state): OFF -> ON_PENDING
<ctrl>
write_reset_state();
smp_store_release(reset_state->reset, true);
and then the whole ON_PENDING -> ON -> run_guest() -> OFF sequence on
the target looks like:
// Target vCPU comes online
smp_load_acquire(reset_state->reset) == true;
cmpxchg_relaxed(power_state): ON_PENDING -> ON;
read_reset_state();
<run guest>
// PSCI CPU_OFF
WRITE_ONCE(reset_state->reset, false);
smp_store_release(power_state, OFF);
which I think makes sense. WDYT? If you agree, I wonder if we can
include a comment similar to the above in the code?
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-01 12:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-14 11:33 [PATCH v3 00/18] KVM: arm64: Confine protected VM vCPU state to EL2 Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] KVM: arm64: Sync HCR_EL2.VSE back to the host vCPU under pKVM Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] KVM: arm64: Validate the host vCPU's VM before reading it " Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] KVM: arm64: Pin the host vCPU before adjusting its PC " Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] KVM: arm64: Disable steal time for protected VMs Fuad Tabba
2026-09-22 14:34 ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] KVM: arm64: Introduce per-EC entry handlers for pKVM Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] KVM: arm64: Skip fixed-feature state flush for protected vCPUs Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] KVM: arm64: Add {flush,sync}_hyp_timer_state() primitives Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] KVM: arm64: Add system register reset framework for protected VMs Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] KVM: arm64: Implement HVC handling for protected guests at EL2 Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] KVM: arm64: Handle PSCI calls for protected VMs " Fuad Tabba
2026-09-22 16:35 ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-09-22 16:37 ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-09-22 17:07 ` Vincent Donnefort
2026-09-23 9:51 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-24 8:30 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-24 11:26 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-24 12:14 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-24 15:21 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-10-01 12:58 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2026-10-01 13:11 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-10-01 12:59 ` Will Deacon
2026-10-01 13:11 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] KVM: arm64: Restrict KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT and PSCI version for protected VMs Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] KVM: arm64: Prevent host PC adjustments for protected vCPUs Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 13:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-14 14:43 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-15 11:02 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-15 11:19 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] KVM: arm64: Inject an UNDEF at EL2 for unhandled protected guest exits Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] KVM: arm64: Add per-EC entry/exit state marshalling for protected guests Fuad Tabba
2026-09-16 16:27 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-16 19:05 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] KVM: arm64: Reject host access to protected VM private state Fuad Tabba
2026-09-16 16:30 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-16 19:07 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-17 8:06 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-17 18:42 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-18 13:21 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-18 13:24 ` Will Deacon
2026-09-27 8:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-27 12:37 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-28 19:00 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] KVM: arm64: Reject host power-on of a vCPU that EL2 holds powered off Fuad Tabba
2026-09-16 16:43 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-09-16 19:08 ` Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] KVM: arm64: Advertise the capabilities that protected VMs support Fuad Tabba
2026-09-14 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] KVM: arm64: Document the protected VM userspace API Fuad Tabba
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